I'm only Gold but like...the number of scoreboard merchants is genuinely insane.

I've won games where every single person on our team is negative and has worse healing/damage than their counterpart on the enemy team. I've lost games where I've healed more than both enemy supports combined.

You'd think enough people would have had similar enough experiences to understand how little raw numbers matter.

Especially raw healing numbers. As a support main it drives me insane. People will say support diff if there is even a tiny difference between you and the enemy supports. But they genuinely cannot seem to comprehend the idea that you can only heal as much damage that came in. Your tank could be playing Sigma/Domina and the enemy tank could be on someone like Mauga the entire time, and people will act like you threw the game for having like 20% less healing than the enemy support lineup. Or maybe you were just made to push cart for a while so your other support farmed numbers, etc.

I feel like it especially drives me insane because I main Ana and Moira is very popular in Gold. They will generate some arbitrarily large healing/damage/kill number and people act like they hard carried the team and are the second coming of Christ.

I would argue that tank as well is a very scoreboard irrelevant role. Obviously if they are just feeding then they are feeding. But even just having more deaths than the enemy tank doesn't mean you played worse. Usually playing tank well creates opportunities for your team to pop off. I lost a push game where I went 27/6 on Orisa and the enemy Mauga just W keyed into our team every fight and went like 16/14. But he just made so much space and forced a support to pocket me to save me that they won a lot of fights off it.

I don't play DPS as much, but the biggest thing I notice there is people really value K/D over the actual impact of kills or deaths. One DPS might get the majority of the kills cleaning up won team fights, but somehow they are always the first one to die every team fight leading to us losing the entire fight. Meanwhile the other DPS is peeling for the supports, playing good off angles, pressuring the enemy supports etc but don't have nearly as many kills.

It really drives me insane. I feel like you fundamentally have to not understand how the game works to say some of the stuff I see people saying. Another certified classic is "we need a shield tank" lol.

Usually if I go back and watch a game the majority of games are won/lost because of better ultimate use or getting early picks/dying first in the neutral team fight.

I desperately need someone to teach me the way of the brig. I’m currently a Plat Support player on Pc and I need to learn brig. My Mechanical Skill (mainly aiming) are rather lackluster and I somehow manage to get to plat playing basically heal bot Kiriko. I gave up a lot of value of Kiriko by playing her heal bot like the damage, and the kill potential on the character, so I thought of switching. Brig to seems like the perfect character, it’s not aim heavy, so I think I can handle playing the character more than other characters that require aim. However after queueing up a few game I ran into several problems. Brig is like a Brawl/flank guard support, she need to deal damage to prod inspire to heal teammates. The problem is my inspire uptime is low (around 21-30%). If enemy team don’t dive me i can’t proc inspire, if I go up near my tank in the frontline I get deleted in a flash, even before I can use my shield bash. Things get worse when playing with Tanks with Barrier like Rein or Ramatra, my whip shot tend to get block all the time and I can’t process inspire without putting my life in danger. I think I got too comfortable with Kiriko’s teleport ability that my positioning ability is effectively zero.

(Also I can’t play Mercy even though I don’t need to aim at all, it’s because my movement on that character sucks, I often just end up playing ground mercy)

That needle hurts.

Hi there,

I've been playing since literally Blizzcon opening night of OW. Stepped away from it for years and I'm coming back.

I'd like to get tf out of bronze for comp play. Let me be clear, I don't play comp unless I'm feeling confident and I do well in QP. The point is to win, and so I do what I can to win. If I'm the reason a team is losing, I find out what I did wrong and correct my play. Or I take a break from comp.

I main ball. He's hard, but I think I know what I'm doing with him to win.

With that said, every time I try to place in comp, I get teams that give me bad play. Not sticking together, bad ults, heroing, just play that I see all the time. I recognize the system puts me higher than my current level and even in silver play at times. But okay though I might, it depends on the team and I always end up in bronze. How can I get out of bronze?

Details, I'm bronze 2 right now. Main ball but if I'm countered or on def I do Domina or Ram. Any criticisms or comments are welcomed.

Hello, I've recently started playing OW and one thing I've noticed is that I have no idea if I'm stressing my healers out or forcing them to waste cooldowns.

Rivals is my only hero shooter that I've played and I got to Celestial playing mainly tank, but one thing I was told before playing Overwatch is that supports have a lot more freedom and skill expression during neutral gameplay, so you usually try to take less damage as tank to allow them freedom.

My problem is that I'm not sure if I'm being too passive or too aggressive. I've been playing Sigma and Ramattra so far and try my best to take as little damage as possible, but it feels like I'm either being too passive or getting perks too slowly.

Is there any way of knowing how much damage I should be avoiding and taking?